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Holder's appeal for gun control for MEXICO'S sake

Have you noticed how often the proponents of more government control rarely cite their real intentions and instead make some emotional appeal about helping some victim class? Holder's claims that we should crack down on guns in the US because it helps MEXICO infuriates me.

This morning I hear David Shorr (who is pretty hard to listen to in the best of circumstances) repeating the Obama/Holder propaganda that the guns in Mexico come mostly from the US. The archive isn't up yet and I will add it when I can. But until then, consider the retort below (I have not verified it, fwiw)

It was written in response to a similar news story in the Wall Street Journal (see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123518102536038463.html?mod=djem_we )


Gents, thanks for a fine article. However, with regard to weaponry coming from the US, please be advised that Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPGs) used by the Cartels are made in the PRC and former Combloc countries and not in the USA.

Also the grenades found in the US coming from Mexico are of Chinese or Combloc origin. many of the small arms, like fully automatic AK-47s are illegal in the USA and come from China or former Combloc nations. They should not be confused with the semi-auto look-alike weapons made and sold in the USA which are of no use to the Cartels as they are not machine guns. They are merely ugly like their military ancestors but are no different in action than a semi-auto hunting rifle sold at Big-5 or Oshman's and of far less power.

Fully automatic M16s, while made in the USA (or abroad under license) are military weapons sold to approved by State Dept. military units and governments abroad, then stolen and smuggled in to Mexico and elsewhere. Automatic weapons are not available in the USA over the counter and require paperwork, background checks, huge fees and approval and subsequent regular inspections of the privately-owned arm by BATF. BATF has not reported thefts or loss of personally owned Class III (Full auto selective fire). BATF should be able to provide you back-trace information proving that the weapons seized in Mexico, while made here or abroad under license, were stolen from the end-user, illegally acquired and smuggled in to Mexico by the Cartels from elsewhere than the US.

Class III Automatic weapons are not available at US Dealers and Gun shows and only through Class IIIBATF approved dealers for sale to approved purchasers after arduous examination. Grenades and RPGsare not available for sale anywhere domestically and the only source is by thefts from military arsenals, which are very few if federal stats are any indication. Combloc grenades are easier to obtain and much cheaper.

That has traditionally gone south from the USA since 1912 have been pistols, hunting rifles and shotguns, purchased by Mexican-American citizens holding dual citizenship, gang members and affiliates, legal immigrants (who may purchase per federal law) and Mexican Police and Judicial Federales who also happen to possess a US Driver's License, which is all the documentation required for completing a BATF Domestic Firearm Registration/Sales form 4473. These parties still to this date purchase lawful firearms in the US and smuggle them south. If they have a US State Driver's license they may do so and a Driver's license is easy to acquire. That they lie on these forms is manifestly evident.

We in law enforcement have been seeing more illegal weapons coming IN to the USA from Mexico along the same routes the drugs are transported. STRATFOR and US law enforcement agencies along the border have also reported the recent and heretofore unseen phenomena of arms coming North being used in cartel actions in US cities.

Fully automatic weapons, (Selective Fire) known in the USA as Class III Arms, are legal to privately possess in 35 states, are strictly controlled, and none have ever been reported as stolen and having surfaced in Mexico, much less having been used in a crime in the USA. My point about the above data is that Mexico is also suffering from an influx of Military arms coming from external sources other than the US that began with the Chinese in the mid 1980s. The Chinese tried it in the USA and were caught, the most memorable incident being the indictment of one Col. Robert Ma, PLA, a representative of the PLA owned Arms Company POLYTECH who fled the US for China after he was caught delivering a container load of full auto military AK47s by US Customs and BATF in a sting operation in California.

Mexico's blame on the USA and claim that it is the origin of all the military small arms they encounter is self-serving as they do not control their coasts any better than they do their borders. Chinese shipments of Selective fire weapons have been known to be dropped in Mexico since the mid 80s. Everyone who has spent time in Mexico or in in Law Enforcement along the US/Mexican Border knows that having a firearm in Mexico is a matter of paying the Mordida (bribe) to possess one or more in contravention of Mexican law as the numerous armed men employed by Hacienderos throughout Mexico demonstrates.

For Mexican Officials to blame the US as the primary black market source for arming the cartels with military hardware is disingenuous and denies smuggling from other external sources and pleads ignorance of the complex multiple standards in Mexico applied to the various classes within the Mexican Population as to who may own a firearm, as has been the case since the laws were written after the Mexican Revolution in 1912. In essence since then, no one in Mexico could own any firearm but a shotgun. Mexico is crawling with non-military arms other than legal shotguns and has been since long before the rise of the Cartels.

This is not a new problem in Mexico. Blaming the US, however, for the military hardware the Cartels use is a way of deflecting observance of endemic corruption and the fact that the political will does not exist to confront and root out these violent criminals who are destroying a once beautiful country and a wonderful people.

Thank you again for a very fine article and allowing me to fill in some salient points.

Jay, Narcotics Investigator, Court Certified Narcotics and Small Arms Expert, Retired LEO.