US ARMY AND CIA MAY BE GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES IN AFGHANISTAN, SAYS ICC | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED


US ARMY AND CIA MAY BE GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES IN AFGHANISTAN, SAYS ICC

US armed forces and the CIA may have committed war crimes by torturing detainees in Afghanistan, the international criminal court’s chief prosecutor has said in a report, raising the possibility that American citizens could be indicted even though Washington has not joined the global court.

“Members of US armed forces appear to have subjected at least 61 detained persons to torture, cruel treatment, outrages upon personal dignity on the territory of Afghanistan between 1 May 2003 and 31 December 2014,” according to the report issued by prosecutor Fatou Bensouda’s office on Monday.

The report adds that CIA operatives may have subjected at least 27 detainees in Afghanistan, Poland, Romania and Lithuania to “torture, cruel treatment, outrages upon personal dignity and/or rape” between December 2002 and March 2008.

Most of the alleged abuse happened in 2003-04, the report says.

Prosecutors said they would decide “imminently” whether to seek authorisation to open a full-scale investigation in Afghanistan that could lead to war crimes charges.

State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau said the US did not believe an ICC investigation was “warranted or appropriate”.

Webmaster's Commentary: 

Such an indictment will have absolutely zero force in US law, because the US government is not a signatory to the ICC.

It may well, however, create a permanent, global, and historic, embarrassment to that unholy trinity of Bush, Rumsfeld, and Cheney, who somehow loved and supported the concept of torture, and consistently alleged that it produced actionable information, which it did not.

One has to wonder if they collectively experienced a "certain, very specific psychological response", to reading reports by field officials of their torturing exploits; of course, that bit we will never know.

But the reality is that torture, at the end of the day, only gets the tortured individual to say whatever the torturers have asked them to confess to, in order to get the torture to stop, period, end of discussion.

During the Second World War, a German interrogator by the name of Hanns Scharff, who only used kindness, rather than torture, as his method of extracting information, and it worked brilliantly. And as reported at knowledgenuts.com:

Scharff was the friendliest interrogator of World War II. Fluent in English, Scharff grilled pilots who were shot down over Germany. Unlike the notorious Barbie, Scharff had a much more positive approach to interrogations. This Luftwaffe officer was a master of mind games. Before he quizzed a prisoner at the Dulag Luft camp, Scharff dug up as much background information on his subjects as possible. Even if he could only find basic info, he fooled prisoners into thinking he already knew all about their objectives. Since he was already aware of their activities, they might as well talk about them, right? Next, Scharff disarmed his prisoners by becoming their best bud. He often took them on trips to the local zoo, and he even let one prisoner take a ride in a German plane. After building a rapport with a POW, Scharff would take him on walks through the Oberursel forest. Together, the Nazi and the Allied pilot would stroll through the pine trees, observing the birds and chatting about America or England. The whole time, Scharff was listening for little slip-ups that would reveal information vital to the German war machine. Prisoners might inadvertently mention something about bomb sights or causally say something about operational plans. They might tell a story about their training or talk about the planes they used to fly. Scharff was such a smooth talker, such a friendly guy, that the prisoners had no idea they were being conned. They were just glad they weren’t being electrocuted. Many of them signed his guestbook before leaving the camp. In fact, after the war, he was invited to many POW reunions because he was such a gentleman. Eventually, Scharff moved to the US where he helped the Air Force come up with survival techniques for downed pilots, and taught intelligence agencies how to peacefully interrogate suspects. The Army was so impressed with Scharff’s methods that they incorporated his methods into their curriculum, and soldiers attending interrogation school learn all about his techniques

Ultimately when the US government tortures, it gives other governments around the world carte blanche to torture American civilians and military personnel.

History will judge Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld very harshly in the end, both for their commodity driven war lust against Afghanistan and Iraq, and for the use of torture.

But this means that all Americans must peacefully advocate for the end of the use of torture in any interrogation situation, because it doesn't work, and there are far better means of extracting information, as demonstrated by the techniques of Hanns Scharff.

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