So here we have the United States (goaded on by its Israeli lobby) and Great Britain (goaded on by its Israeli lobby) and France (goaded on by its Israeli lobby) all screaming about Iran's nuclear ambitions and the "deal."

But the bottom line here is that Iran has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and allows full IAEA inspections, none of which have indicated that Iran is an any way diverting reactor fuel components to weapons development.

Iran is playing by the rules.

And there is already a deal in place.

In contrast, the United States, also a signer of the NNPT, has violated the requirements of that treaty, which allows Iran to build nuclear power stations. Indeed under article IV, the United States is obligated to assist Iran in building their nuclear power stations.

This is the only deal in place because all parties have agreed to it.

The plan to have Iran send most of its uranium to other countries then wait patiently for it to be returned is not a deal, it is at best a proposal, and between France's refusal to return the last batch of Uranium, and the United State's violations of the existing treaty, Iran can be forgiven for being cautious. Contrary to the propaganda, there is no deal other than the NNPT at this time.

What the people pushing for a new war with Iran are hoping is that you are an idiot, and don't recall the "Nookular" threat used to sell you the war in Iraq.

Here is a recap of what else they are trying to make you forget.

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.

6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.

9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.

10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.

We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, "LIAR!" at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more.

Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them.

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I am alarmed by the renewed push to propagandize that Iran has secret nuclear facilities and are already building nuclear weapons. The warhawks in Israel are desperate to get the US into war with Iran. I am concerned that Israel may be desperate enough to set off one of their own nuclear devices inside the United States during this upcoming holiday season and blame Iran for it.

Of course, with the exception of Israel, which cannot officially admit they have nuclear weapons without losing the billions of dollars coming from the US taxpayers, the normal process for a nation with nuclear weapons is to announce that they have them and show them off, because after all, what is the point of having a nuclear deterrent if you keep it a secret? If Iran really had a bomb, they would announce it to the world and say, "attack us now and lose a major city." That would make Iran safe, because the US and Israel do not attack and invade nations that actually have nuclear weapons, only those nations who do not, like Irag, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

1. The last time Iran sent nuclear materials to France for processing they never got it back.

2. Everyone is screaming about a deal with Iran but there is already a deal in place called the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; a deal Iran is abiding by and the United States is not. Why would Iran agree to a deal when history has shown the UNited States cannot be trusted to keep its word?

3. If Iran removes all of their nuclear materials from their nuclear facilities, those facilities become instant targets for Israeli bombs and missiles.

1. The last time Iran sent nuclear materials to France for processing they never got it back.

2. Everyone is screaming about a deal with Iran but there is already a deal in place called the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; a deal Iran is abiding by and the United States is not. Why would Iran agree to a deal when history has shown the UNited States cannot be trusted to keep its word?

3. If Iran removes all of their nuclear materials from their nuclear facilities, those facilities become instant targets for Israeli bombs and missiles.

I am alarmed by the renewed push to propagandize that Iran has secret nuclear facilities and are already building nuclear weapons. The warhawks in Israel are desperate to get the US into war with Iran. I am concerned that Israel may be desperate enough to set off one of their own nuclear devices inside the United States during this upcoming holiday season and blame Iran for it.

Of course, with the exception of Israel, which cannot officially admit they have nuclear weapons without losing the billions of dollars coming from the US taxpayers, the normal process for a nation with nuclear weapons is to announce that they have them and show them off, because after all, what is the point of having a nuclear deterrent if you keep it a secret? If Iran really had a bomb, they would announce it to the world and say, "attack us now and lose a major city." That would make Iran safe, because the US and Israel do not attack and invade nations that actually have nuclear weapons, only those nations who do not, like Irag, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

And I predict that when that “Foreign intelligence service” gives the laptop to the media, it will be chock full of planted incriminating files.

There are three reasons why this is a wise move for Iran.

1. The last time Iran sent nuclear materials to France for processing they never got it back.

2. Everyone is screaming about a deal with Iran but there is already a deal in place called the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; a deal Iran is abiding by and the United States is not.

3. If Iran removes all of their nuclear materials from their nuclear facilities, those facilities become instant targets for Israeli bombs and missiles.

Not the very clever wording to imply that the quarterly report makes the claim about secret installations. In point of fact the quarterly report does not. That claim is made in the so-called IAEA "secret annex", a report "leaked" and denounced as a fraud earlier this year, but apparently resurrected to try to resell the war with Iran.

And of course why would Iran put any official labels on a clandestine cargo of weapons to begin with?

What's that stain on the front of your pants, Wolf???????

This is a replay of the IAEA "Secret Annex" hoax from a few months back.

If this is true, as one might expect to happen after the desecration of the grave of Neda Soltan, these elements are just probably going to have the same amount of luck with suppressing dissent as has China.

A savvy Iranian dissident is going to find a way around the roadblocks, and keep themselves and their friends from being visible to prying eyes on the net.

I have to look at this, and think, "cui bono?!?

Who benefits?!?

It certainly isn't the current Iranian government.

It certainly isn't those opposition supporters, who will probably wind up even more harassed and surveilled than they ever were before.

So, who benefits?

Those foreign governmental agencies who feel they will profit from more instability in Iran.

If you can't identify and name the perps, you have absolutely no idea of who desecrated this grave, period, end of discussion.

How is Iran a threat to the United States?

Don't we have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world? Our parents paid $5 trillion for it, back when a trillion was really as lot of money! Are you telling us that all that money was wasted? That We The People were cheated?

This is the same goof made with the forged Niger uranium documents used to start the war with Iraq. They used an out-of-date letterhead and the forged signature of an official who had left the agency years previously.

There is already a deal and it is called the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The United States has violated the terms of that treaty which may be why Iran isn't really in a hurry to make any more deals likely to be an equal waste of parchment.

Obama is trying to goad Iran into an act that can be used to justify a war.

This is a replay of the 8-step plan authored by ONI Lt. Cmdr Arther H. McCollum used to goad Japan into the attack on Pearl Harbor.

In other words, the US is provoking Iran, much as the US provoked Japan in the lead-up to WW2.

Exactly my concern with that segment.

And why I have quit watching the show.

" ... because Israel told us to get up off our asses and quit wasting time. There are other Arab nations that have to be destroyed and we can;t keep them waiting!"

The US is trying to make these clowns out as innocent victims, but before leaving on their hike, they asked the locals which was was the border, and in any event, all modern call phones have GPS on them. "I lost my way" is on the same level as "The dog ate my homework" as excuses go.

Iran is trying to work out a counter-proposal that will work for them, as well as Western powers, which is perfectly logical.

Of course, it won't be spun that way in either the Western or Israeli media.

It is fascinating, looking at the Israeli political and military leadership, just how quickly the concept of "self-defence" morphs into pre-emptive war.

Read carefully. What Iran is saying is what they said before; they refuse to send out all the uranium at one time, then to wait for the fuel to be processed and returned. They want to do it a small batch at a time, because of their prior history with France refusing to return uranium hexaflouride to Iran.

Everyone talks about the deal, but neglects to mention that there is already a deal ni place called the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which the US, France, Germany, and UK are already in vilation of. Israel, despite repeated requests from the UN and US, refuses to sign the NNPT or allow the IAEA inspections that Iran submits to.

This story is being planted to counter the fact that the IAEA has confirmed there are no signs of weapons development at the enrichment facility at Qom, and more to the point, archival satellite photos of the area show that construction had not even started three years ago when the US claimed it first knew of the facilities' existence.

Secretary of State Clinton has essentially told Iran that it's "her way or the highway" in terms of wanting to force Iran to accept the original proposal with no deviation, knowing that this is already a non-starter which can be exploited to initiate a war of conquest.

And the irony here is, Iran has absolutely played by the book, as a signatory to the NNPT. Inspections have consistently demonstrated no deviation of any nuclear material, and no enrichment past the point necessary to fuel a power plant.

If no agreement is reached, it is just a question of how soon before the bombs start flying, leaving our military in Iraq sitting ducks for any Iranian counter-attack.

And all because Israel, which has nuclear weapons and refuses to sign the NNPT, has declared that this will be so, to be paid for in American blood and money.

This is a replay of the "Secret Annex" hoax from a few months ago.

The best way to get a dog to stop chasing cars is to let them catch one.

So, go ahead, Israel. Attack Iran.

Just don't use any money or weapons from the American people to do it, and don't expect our sons and daughters to die to save you from the retaliation.

You think you are Samson?

Time to walk your talk.

Meanwhile, Israel is throwing a tantrum over the fact that the IAEA inspectors found nothing suspicious in the new facility.

Unfortunately, Israel is doing its level best to guarantee that these negotiations will fail, and that the war against Iran will be fought with American blood and money.

This would be a logical consequence of such an attack.

Unfortunately, logic and the geopolitical aims of Israel have never had a great on-going relationship.

Translation: Do as you are told., or else!

Iran is not rejecting the IAEA proposal; it is simply asking for time to develop a counter proposal.

Iran hasn't started any war for the last 200 years.

The leaders of Iran may be many things, but they are not stupid. They understand that any attack on Israel would lead to a massive counter-attack by the US and Israel which would pulverize Iran into a puddle of green glass.

And knowing, without any bit of ambiguity, that Israel has nuclear weapons, refuses to sign the NNPT, and refuses inspections of their nuclear sites, it is Iran which is probably feeling a great deal of existential dread right the heck now.

Every single inspection by the IAEA has indicated that absolutely no nuclear material has been diverted, nor has any been enriched beyond the level necessary to run a power plant.

This article, and the fact-challenged and fact-devoid articles like it, are journalistic equivalent of junk food, intended for massive consumption to prepare the American public for an Israeli attack against Iran in the near-term.

But please don't drink the koolaid on this one; because it will be our kids serving in our active military who will be called to defend "poor little Israel" with their lives.

The only "limits" she is discussing are those imposed by Netanyahu earlier this year, who threatened that if the US couldn't take care of the (non-existent) threat of a nuclear armed Iran by the end of this year, Israel would take care of that with a military strike.

It's the first of November, and the clock is ticking toward such a potential scenario.

There's no deal here which has been cast in cement; it is completely reasonable that Iran wants more talks. This is a framework for a potential agreement only.

Let us hope that the adults in the room in Tehran, Tel Aviv, Vienna, and Washington will find a win/win way to make this work.

Otherwise, we may well be looking at a military confrontation which could spell the beginning of World War III, as Russia has made very clear upon whose side they would be fighting, should such a confrontation happen.

Unflipping believable.

How can the US say in one breath that they are in support of this deal while at the same time supporting what will amount to unilateral sanctions??

A deal is not a deal unless and until all sides agree to it.

Asking for more time, more clarification, and more meetings is certainly not unreasonable here on the part of Iran.

"Negotiations, schmegotiations; Israel ordered us to attack Iran, so we attack Iran. Get used to it!" -- Official White Horse Souse

Kill them! Kill them! They've ... they've ... they've ... Okay they haven't actually done anything. But they could do something! And soon! They are evil, evil people! They reject the holy writ of compound interest!!! Kill them! Kill them! Kill them!

It is not a deal until everyone agrees to it.

But since the US, France, Britain, and Germany broke the last deal (the NNPT) I can understand why Iran is cautious.

It isn't a deal until ALL sides agree to it.

The big lie here is the attempt to claim that Iran did agree to the original deal, which they did not, then to portray Iran as having broken the agreement which was never agreed to.

It isn't a deal until ALL sides agree to it.

Of course, the obvious purpose here isn't Iran's power station and medical isotopes, but to justify another war of conquest for Americans to die in while trying to make it look like Iran is the bad guy here.

Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.

6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.

9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.

10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.

It isn't a "deal" until ALL sides agree to it!

Note that not a word here is mentioned about Iran's counter-proposal.

Look at this from Iran's point of view. The deal the US and Israel want is for Iran to simply ship most of their uranium out of Iran, then trust that somewhere down the road the processed uranium will get shipped back. But Iran is having trouble trusting the US on this deal and for a very good reason; the United States is already violating the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty by asking Iran to cease peaceful uses of nuclear power. For that matter so are France, Britain, and Germany. They all signed the NNPT alongside Iran but are in violation of that treaty by supporting the US position. Israel is not in violation of the NNPT for the simple reason that they never signed it nor have they allowed the same inspections that Iran allows. The fact that France previously reneged on a similar deal involving Iranian uranium shipped to France but never shipped back does not help.

There is one other reason for Iran to be cautious about letting all their processed uranium leave the country. The presence of refined uranium at Iran's facilities is a major reason those facilities have not yet been bombed. If Israel were to attack those facilities while the uranium is resident it would create a disaster on a scale equal to Chernobyl that would poison the middle east including Israel itself (already dealing with leakage issues from the Dimona reactor). If Iran sends the all the uranium in a given facility to Russia, that facility becomes an instant target. It is rather unrealistic to expect Iran to trust the very nations that have been threatening to attack Iran for months now, especially after seeing the war waged on Iraq on the basis of lies and deceptions.

The problem we face today is that too many governments see a new world war as their best way to get out of the troubles they are in, and they are perfectly happy to see millions of people continue to die horrible deaths to prolong their power.

Isn/t diplomacy where both sides negotiate to reach a deal?

Instead the "we gotta have a war NOW" crowd is taking the position that Iran has to do as they are told without question or face war.

This strikes me as odd because as we have pointed out many times already, Iran has a right to build nuclear power plants and other peaceful uses of nuclear energy as guaranteed by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which Iran has signed.

The United States has also signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which means that under international law, the US is required to recognize Iran's right to peaceful uses of nuclear power. Under Article IV, the United States is required to assist Iran in building peaceful applications of nuclear technology.

For that matter, France, Britain, and Germany, which are reported in this article to reject Iran's proposal, are also signers of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Which means they are also required by treaty law to recognize Iran's right to peaceful uses of nuclear power.

The message here is clear. "Someone" has made the decision that Iran is to be destroyed and it does not matter what concessions Iran makes, the war will be on. Apparently to please the warhawks, France, Britain, and Germany have no problem being seen as treaty-breakers and rogue nations.

Meanwhile, of course, there is the problem of Israel which has NOT signed the NNPT does NOT allow IAEA inspections, and yet leads the charge to demonize Iran (just as it did Iraq) over a non-existent weapons threat.

War with Iran will mean war with Russia.

Do you really want to go through that for Israel?

MORE EXAMPLES OF THE PRO-WAR SPIN

Iran's conditions push nuclear deal close to collapse

Iran heads for nuclear row

Iran accused of playing games on nuclear deal

Look back at the headlines before the invasion of Iraq. You will see the same fear-mongering, demonization, and above all, the demand that Iraq/Iran must simply do as ordered to avoid invasion.

And meanwhile, Israel continues to build nuclear weapons with which to

"Israel has told us to start a war with Iran and BY GOD WE MEAN TO DO IT!!!!!" -- Official White Horse Souse

This is why nobody wants to deal with Israel (or the US) any more. NO matter what concessions are made, it is never enough.

Israel, who has never signed the NNPT and does not allow IAEA inspections, wants the world to see Iran, which HAS signed the NNPT and DOES allow IAEA inspections, as the villain.

And the fact that Israel is no longer able to shape global perceptions to her own design is the reason we are seeing an entire nation throw a tantrum.

Desperation on the cusp of madness.

NOW THEN, ABOUT ISRAEL'S NOT-SO-COVERT ARMS MAKING ABILITIES...

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

"Okay, forget about Iran. How about Sudan? Can we invade Sudan? They have oil and gas. We'll just say they harbor terrorists or something!" -- Official White Horse Souse

"Okay, forget about Iran. How about Lebanon? Can we invade Lebanon? They have water. We'll just say they harbor terrorists or something!" -- Official Tel Aviv Souse

This is your Tzipi on drugs. Any questions?

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.
2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.
4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.
5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.
6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.
7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.
9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.
10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.